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matt

USA
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Posted - Feb 14 2009 :  09:54:53  Show Profile  Reply

I know this is a perennial topic. I am doing projects of approximately 30 minutes duration, with old family photos and documents. Like others, I have discovered the joys of using Audacity software for creating MP3s with narration on top of music and sound effects background.

I'm wondering if others have faced the same dilemma: for accuracy/alignment sake, is it better to do one, single, lengthy soundtrack, or does it make more sense to make a series of "pieces" of background files that can be aligned with specific frames? I would be interested in some guidance on that.

(In that regard, is there a way that the "redo" feature could allow going back more than one step -- I somehow managed to bungle using the 'align to frames' function, as I ended up completely wiping out carefully programmed timing over about 40 individual frames. I did not discover until a few steps down the road, and when I realized I could not undo I was close to weeping.)

Matt

xequte

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Posted - Feb 15 2009 :  14:17:24  Show Profile  Reply
Hi Matt

I have not personally used the Audacity software, but I would imagine it is best to create short background clips for each frame (or small set of frames). You can then use the Align to Frame function to ensure the timing is correct:

http://www.xequte.com/support/pixplayfaq.html#stretching_frames_to_music

Nigel
Xequte Software
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Bagsey

United Kingdom
131 Posts

Posted - Feb 15 2009 :  16:39:36  Show Profile  Reply
This is a method which I have used to make a succesful soundtrack.
First set up your slide show without sound to be exactly as you want it to perform and save it. Then record the background music using audicity paying attention to the timing. I record extra sound tracks then copy and paste them together until I have the music to the length I need to cover the whole length of the slide show. Now cut it to the exact length of the slideshow using the minuits and seconds stated on the slide timing. When satisfied with this length you can record ,again using audicity, separate pieces of comentary that you wish to use throughout your slideshow putting ech on its own track. You may finish up with a lot of tracks so is essential to keep good written records of where each piece is needed toogether with slide timing for its position. When this is finished expand the music so that you can get very accurate timing m Now on a second track place you commentary pieces in the order you need them to be in. These pieces can be spaced out very accurately by addind pieces of silence between each to suit the spacing to match your slide timing. When you a happy with this you save it together with the music track to give a combined single track. Hopefully if you have got your timing right all should be ok when yo add the track to your slide show. Slight changes can be made by altering individual slide timings to correct discepancies. NOTE it is of course essential to save each stage in this work as separate tracks so that you can repeat each stage as you go along because once you have combine these tracks there is no going back. Sorry if this sounds confusing but in practice it is not so long as you keep comprehensive note pad of your timings and track names etc. Good Luck

Bagsey
North Yorkshire UK
DVDPixPlay Ver. 4.1
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michelzz

France
34 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  14:03:49  Show Profile  Reply
Hi
I quite agree with Bagsey
I also use Audacity to make the sound tracks of my PixPlay projects
First I record my commentaries separatly
Then I put them at the right moments in a sound track with pieces of silence between the commentaries
I check if the commentaries are reall at the proper places; if my commentary is too long, I manage so that the images last longer
Teh I choose a backgroung music the length of which is about the same as the duration of my project
I put on the same screen the soundtrack containing my commentaries with pieces of silence ant he soundtrack containing the background music
I low the parts of music when there are commentaries sothat one can listen the commentaries while the music is not too loud (It took a long time before I managed properly with the tool to do that in Audacity)
then I mix the 2 sound traks and I add the result to my Pixplay slideshow
If I want to add the sound of a video (its a problem in PixPlay) I use VLC Media Player to copy the sound separatly from the video and then I use Audacity to match the sound of the video at the moment when it apears in the slideshow
I apologize for my english
Good luck
Michel
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jvaughan5

4 Posts

Posted - Feb 19 2009 :  15:40:27  Show Profile  Reply
Hi,
I need help lining up music to my slideshow. I have tried the "Align to frame" button and it has not worked right. It divides the slides times up funny. I have also spent a lot of time trying to manually make each frame a certain amount of seconds to match my songs. This is a huge pain. Is there an easier way???? There has to be. Why is it so hard to make the slides times match the song???

Thanks if anyone has advice!
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Bagsey

United Kingdom
131 Posts

Posted - Feb 20 2009 :  01:57:26  Show Profile  Reply
I suggest that you try to follow the previous two postings which outline a method of achieving what you want using Audacity. I found that this works very well indeed. If you need held with this method post back as it can be a bit confusing if you have never done this kind of thing before.

Bagsey
North Yorkshire UK
DVDPixPlay Ver. 4.1
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jvaughan5

4 Posts

Posted - Feb 20 2009 :  09:49:52  Show Profile  Reply
Thanks,

I have tried to download audacity and I'm not sure if it was successfull. Does it change to another name other than audacity for the music/soundtrack making application? I will try to download it again. Any tips for using it would be great cause I'm sure I will get confused. Also, once this one mix of my songs is made, would I then manually align all of the frames in each section of my slideshow to match each song??
Thanks again for the help.
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jvaughan5

4 Posts

Posted - Feb 20 2009 :  09:56:40  Show Profile  Reply
Yes, Absolutely need the help. I re-downloaded audacity and I have no idea what to do to get my four songs into one. Please help me! Thanks for your time!
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Bagsey

United Kingdom
131 Posts

Posted - Feb 20 2009 :  10:29:00  Show Profile  Reply
Open AUDACITY. then go to open on the file menu. and load a Tune.
Goto file menu again and load another tune. This will open another copy of Audacity. Repeat this until all of you tunes are loaded.
Goto the top of the screen and pull down each screen until you get to the first tune. By using the zoom out icon , the magnifying glass with the minus sign click once and this will reduce to track length. Now go to your second tune screen and on the EDIT menu Select All then Copy. Go baxk to your first screen , click at the end of the tune the Edit and Paste. Your second tune should now be inline with your first tune. Repeat this process until all of your tunes are in line.When all are in line it is a good idea to go to Edit again Select All then On the EFFECT Menu click on Click Removal this will remove any noise from your music. Important if you are using old vynal records as your music source. If you need any more help post back.

Bagsey
North Yorkshire UK
DVDPixPlay Ver. 4.1
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Bagsey

United Kingdom
131 Posts

Posted - Feb 20 2009 :  10:40:22  Show Profile  Reply
I should have said that, that is one way of doing the job but there is another method that I prefer. Load up your first tune. Then go to the PROJECT menu and click on Import Audio this will bring your new tune onto the same screen as your first tune. You will still need to copy and paste but it save jumping from one screen to another.Hope that is of help.

Bagsey
North Yorkshire UK
DVDPixPlay Ver. 4.1
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jvaughan5

4 Posts

Posted - Feb 23 2009 :  17:13:34  Show Profile  Reply
Thanks for all the help! I will try this technique and hopefully, my slideshow can finally be complete!

Thanks,
Jenny
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