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justuspost
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 Posted - May 01 2007 : 16:10:54
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It would be very nice if there were some validation options when validating your mailing list. I do not really want to validate the address against a server, I only want to scan it for syntax errors like 123@aol.com.com or 123@aol.com.a etc. Clearly these fall outside of the possible syntax of an email address, but I have to validate them against an external server to test them... Definitely not an optimal process, especially when folks like us are pushing almost a million names.
Being able to choose what parts you want to validate would be a great help.
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justuspost
USA
71 Posts |
Posted - May 01 2007 : 16:14:33
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I have a bonded T1 (3mbs) that only mlk runs on.
I started the validation process and it is showing me that I have 485 hours remaining. That calculates to about 20 days.... I cant even imagine what the time would be for someone on cable or dial up... years.... lol
There has got to be a better way.
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xequte
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Posted - May 03 2007 : 05:43:50
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Hi Justus
I personally believe validation of email addresses is a waste of time. It's not very reliable and it is not a good use of your resources. The reliable way to validate your addresses is just to send to your mailing list and then let MLK process the bounces and automatically remove the addresses that bounce too often.
OTOH, validating just the domains could be done much more quickly and would be quite reliable (because a DNS server needs to give a valid response). Thanks for the good idea. I'll add that as a validation option in a coming update.
Nigel
Xequte Software
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justuspost
USA
71 Posts |
Posted - May 04 2007 : 14:08:14
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Hi, I agree that the full validation is a waste. However, simply checking syntax for incorrect characters and format would help. We purchased a list and imported it, so unless we were to manually check the names, we are not sure if they are even possible addresses. I have found several with syntax errors and invalid chars like |(pipe), spaces, nonexistent TLD's, etc. If MLK were to only check the DNS and validate the syntax, that would be super.
Maillist validator is a really good one. Maybe you guys can use theirs instead of having to develop a new one or at least use theirs as a good example.
Justus
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xequte
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Posted - May 05 2007 : 23:53:31
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Hi Justus
MLK will always check that a message is validly formatted (contains @ domain name and TLD, only has valid characters, etc), assuming the option is turned on under View>Options, Blocking.
If you have found an email address that you don't believe is validly formatted and MLK did let it slip through, please give me more detail.
Nigel
Xequte Software
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justuspost
USA
71 Posts |
Posted - May 11 2007 : 18:50:19
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Hi,
I notice that you cannot validate names that were bulk imported with out using the DNS check. If you add the name 1 by 1, then yes, it will validate them for syntax. However, if you import a mailing list, it does not.
The feature that I would like to see would be to be able to validate syntax only after names have been imported.
Justus
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xequte
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Posted - May 15 2007 : 04:03:24
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Hi Justus
The member insertion code used for adding addresses 1x1 vs. importing addresses is the same, and so in both cases it should validate the addresses.
If you are encountering something different please give me the steps to reproduce.
Nigel
Xequte Software
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justuspost
USA
71 Posts |
Posted - May 15 2007 : 13:56:45
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I wonder if the 1-1 was the case in previous versions. As far as steps to reproduce, we just imported a list, then recently I exported it and re imported it and it still didn't catch these. One specifically was name@domain.com.com (two.com's) Others were typo's that may have fit the general syntax, but would never be tld's like .ocm
There are only about 20 TLD's but quite a few ccTLD's.. Either way, if it doesn't match, its no good.
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xequte
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Posted - May 16 2007 : 17:24:54
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Hi Justus
By default, MLK only blocks addresses that it knows are wrong because they are not formatted according to Email Standards. So while .ocm or .com.com addresses seem obviously wrong to us, they are theoretically quite valid, and thus MLK does not block them.
You should go into View>Options, Blocking and add .ocm and .com.com to the lists of blocks to prevent them being added.
Nigel
Xequte Software
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justuspost
USA
71 Posts |
Posted - May 17 2007 : 16:23:32
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Right, They are added now, so we would the ability to find all possible ones.
Yes, they are 'correct' syntax wise, however since there are so few possible ccTLD's and TLD's, there seems little reason to not just validate against known cc & tld's with the ability to add to the list rather then against anything that could be correct...
Just my 2c
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xequte
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Posted - May 18 2007 : 07:04:49
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Hmmm, that's true. At this point there are only 268 possible TLDs. In the next update we will add an option to flag any unknown TLD's as erroneous.
Nigel
Xequte Software
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justuspost
USA
71 Posts |
Posted - May 18 2007 : 14:45:56
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Good Idea! I like it :-)
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