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 PAL is NTSC - so won't play in England.
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Baj

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Posted - May 08 2009 :  10:00:50  Show Profile  Reply
Hi
Live in England. I like your software. If it works for PAL. I wish to buy it. But it does not do so.
Problem:

Follow the wizard instructions carefully.
Select PAL.
Select burn to DVD (high quality).
Burns fine.
Will not play in my DVD Player (Panasonic DMR-EX75EB)- error message "TV not compatible".

Check disc with Plextools - it reports:
"ISO 9660, UDF(V1.02)
MPEG-1, 720x480, NTSC, 4:3"

Despite checking the PAL circle the DVD is NTSC.

This cannot be right.

I've done some further investigation: Analysis of .VOB file using Media Player Classic and a comparison with a DVD recording of a TV programme.

PixPlayer DVD:-

Plextools........................VOB Data
MPEG-1...........................MPEG-2 (yes Plextools reports MPEG-1)
720x480..........................720x576(yes Plextools reports 480)
NTSC..............................**** (**** = not reported)
4:3................................16:9 (of no importance)
****..............................25 fps.

DVD recording of TV programme:-

Plextools........................VOB Data
MPEG-2...........................MPEG-2
704x576..........................704x576
PAL...............................****
4:3................................4:3
****..............................25 fps.


Regards,

Baj

Here is the Log File:-

0 - [Prepare] Start PixPlay, Version: v3.35 (3.3.5.1204)
0 - [Prepare] Windows: Windows XP
0 - [Prepare] Date: 26/04/2007 16:21:22
0 - [Prepare] StarBurn Version: 537330208
0 - [Prepare] StarBurn.dll: 7.2.20.544
0 - [Prepare] WnAspi32.dll: 6.4.10.1584
0 - [Prepare]
0 - [Prepare] Project File: D:\WORKING FOLDER\My Slideshow 2.pxp
0 - [Prepare] Images: 12 (12)
0 - [Prepare] Sounds: 1
0 - [Prepare] Contact Address=Unknown
0 - [Prepare] Stretching Possible: True
0 - [Prepare]
30 - [BurnerLog] UpStartEx
31 - [GetTransportType] UseSptiTransport: True
31 - [PrepareBurnerList] Start
31 - [PrepareBurnerList] Device 0: E: DVDR PX-716A 31 - [PrepareBurnerList] Device 2: G: DVD-RW DVR-111
31 - [cbDrivesChange] Selected Device 2: 2^G: DVD-RW DVR-111
31 - [PrepareBurnerList] End, Burner count: 2
38 - [GetMaxProjectSpaceRequired] Estimated total project space required: 110 MB
38 - [AddDiskSpaceCheck2Log] Disk Space Available: 30139MB
38 - [AddDiskSpaceCheck2Log] Disk Space Required: 110 MB
38 - [PrepareBurnerList] Device 0: E: DVDR PX-716A 38 - [PrepareBurnerList] Device 2: G: DVD-RW DVR-111
38 - [cbDrivesChange] Selected Device 2: 2^G: DVD-RW DVR-111
38 - [PrepareBurnerList] End, Burner count: 2
38 - [DeviceAndDiskInfoStr] Device: Device: G: DVD-RW DVR-111
38 - [ValidateSelectedDevice] Device: G: DVD-RW DVR-111 : Vendor: PIONEER

Read Formats: CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+RDL
Write Formats: CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-R, DVD-RAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+RDL
Write Modes: TAO

Media: DVD-R
Disk Size: 4.38 GB
Disk Label:
Needs Erasing: No

38 - [ValidateSelectedDevice] DISC_INFORMATION is Valid
38 - [ValidateSelectedDevice] Need to erase disk: False
38 - [GetBurnerAndLockDrive] Start
38 - [GetSelectedDevice_DeviceName] Name: \\.\G:
38 - [GetTransportType] UseSptiTransport: True
38 - [BurnerLog] CdvdBurnerGrabber_Create (before create)
38 - [BurnerLog] CdvdBurnerGrabber_Create (after create): PortID:0,BusID:0,TargetID:0,LUN:0
38 - [BurnerLog] CdvdBurnerGrabber_Lock
38 - [PrepareBurnOptions] Start
38 "
38 - [ValidateWriteModes] Start, Burn Mode: 0
38 - [ValidateWriteModes] End, Burn Mode: 0
38 - [GetBurnOptions] Burn Mode: TAO
38 - [GetBurnOptions] Finalize: True
38 - [GetBurnOptions] Speed: 12.0x or 16620 KB/sec (Max)
38 - [GetBurnOptions] Speed: 12.0x (16620 KB/sec)
38 - [ValidateSelectedDevice] RESULT: TRUE
38 - [-]
38 "
38 "
38 - [-] ********************************************************************
38 - [-]
38 - [-] COMMENCING SLIDESHOW CREATION
38 - [CreateSS] Commencing Slideshow Creation (6)
38 - [OutString] Commencing creation of slideshow
38 - [AddDiskSpaceCheck2Log] Disk Space Available: 30139MB
38 - [CreateSS] Calling ConvertToVideoFile: C:\DOCUME~1\John\LOCALS~1\Temp\~dpp\_DPP_Slideshow.mpg
38 - [ConvertToVideoFile] Start, in: 12 images, out: C:\DOCUME~1\John\LOCALS~1\Temp\~dpp\_DPP_Slideshow.mpg
38 - [ConvertToVideoFile] Intializing variables
38 - [ConvertToVideoFile] TruncateAudio (N): True
38 - [ConvertToVideoFile] Audio Format: MP2 of bit rate: 192
38 - [ConvertToVideoFile] Frames/Second: 25
38 - [ConvertToVideoFile] Loop Background Music? True

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JIMD

USA
499 Posts

Posted - May 08 2009 :  10:50:18  Show Profile  Reply
BAJ

Some DVD recorders can record in PAL from a PAL source or NTSC from an NTSC source, however, they do not covert the signal during recording -- in other words, you cannot record a PAL disc if your source is NTSC or vice versa. Also, NTSC DVD recorders cannot record from its NTSC tuner to a disc in PAL format.

The only real workarounds for this are:

If you have a DVD player that has a built-in NTSC-PAL converter -- that would enable you to play an NTSC disc and view it on a PAL TV (or vice versa).

OR

If you purchase an NTSC to PAL converter and place it between a camcorder or VCR and a DVD recorder with PAL recording capability so that the DVD recorder can record a DVD in PAL.



JIM DALTON
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Baj

5 Posts

Posted - May 08 2009 :  11:40:01  Show Profile  Reply
Hi Jim
Thanks for your comments.
All my recorders, players and TVs are PAL. I have no interest in NTSC
whatsoever; I only have and use PAL equipment and media.

My problem is not trying to play NTSC but getting the DVD burnt by
PixPlayer, in PAL format (look at the data I supplied, 25 fps - 720x576)
to play on my PAL set-up.

Although PixPlayer has burnt the disc perfectly in PAL format, there
is obviously some sort of header that is mistakingly telling my DVD
player that it is an NTSC disc and because my TV is PAL, the player
then stops after displaying the error message.

Regards
Baj
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JIMD

USA
499 Posts

Posted - May 08 2009 :  22:04:21  Show Profile  Reply
BAJ

Here is a link to the Operation Manual for your Dvd recorder. Copy this to your browser. See page 49 for proper Setup.

http://techdocs.panasonic.co.uk/docs/1z4641bd21z3z20238z656ez706466z21ze08c7d26dfd8b38fb819eff7453c500a85c4ade9/tsn2/data/ALL/DMRE75V/OI/739288/vqt0h83.pdf

JIM DALTON
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xequte

7504 Posts

Posted - May 08 2009 :  23:51:20  Show Profile  Reply
Hi Baj

In the log it is correctly settings the Pal flag, so i'm not sure why the disk is not being reported as such. At any rate, we have it down for investigation for the next update of DVD PixPlay.

However I think this is unlikely to be the cause of your playback problems. With all the DVD players we have for testing a NTSC disk plays as well as a PAL disk on a PAL DVD player (we're located in NZ so we have a lot of PAL players).

Try using different types and brands of disks, we have numerous reports of people saying that after changing from Generic Brand X to a better brand it solved their problems.

Also try going into View>Options, Other, Advanced and change the DVD MPEG Audio Setting




Nigel
Xequte Software
nigel@xequte.com
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Baj

5 Posts

Posted - May 09 2009 :  08:47:06  Show Profile  Reply
Hi Jim,

You have found the cause of my problem: I am using S-Video for all my
connections and it appears that the DMR-EX75EB will not handle NTSC
signals on its S-Video circuits. The erroneous information recorded on
the DVD is stopping the EX75 from outputting a perfectly good PAL
video to my TV.
I have an HDMI cable on order and hopefully this will cure my problem
caused by the NTSC label on the DVD.

Many thanks

Baj
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Baj

5 Posts

Posted - May 09 2009 :  09:08:54  Show Profile  Reply
Hi Nigel

I have successfully produced a playable DVD by saving the slide show to
a file and then burning it to a DVD using other software.
I note that you intend to investigate (and hopefully fix) this problem
during your next update.

If I were to purchase DVD PixPlay now, would the update be free?

Thanks

Baj
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xequte

7504 Posts

Posted - May 09 2009 :  17:15:41  Show Profile  Reply
Hi Baj

Yes, we have policy of giving a free upgrade (to the version that provides a fix) to anyone who reports a problem.



Nigel
Xequte Software
nigel@xequte.com
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Baj

5 Posts

Posted - May 10 2009 :  02:22:19  Show Profile  Reply

Thanks for your reply. I will now buy the programme.

Cheers

Baj
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