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Morry Posted - Apr 15 2009 : 08:12:09
Hi Nigel, A definite freeze up at 92% on all format test burns other than image while multiplexing.Computer light stopped flashing and screen switched from active figures window to blank screen. Waited 5 mins to be sure before using ctrl alt delete! A message had came up on screen saying error cannot show preview!
Regarding the programme miss matching the music to the slides even with the music of the same or very close to duration and with the stretch show to music ticked, it still was way out of sync.I supect this may be because some of the slide show files had been replaced that were missing and one titles text changed. Also I have noticed that the view time in seconds one gives to the slides appears to be very innaccurate ie: if you give 1 sec you still get 4 or even 5 secs view of the subject as well as the transition selected?
Another problem I have encountered quite often while editing text on titles is that the title in the edit window that I have just added text or other material to and clicked ok, does not match the lower screen box title or the finished view tab title? If this is computer lag how much ram do I need to speed things up, I have 1 gig on this PC?
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elirub1 Posted - Apr 22 2009 : 14:00:42
Hi Nigel
Thanks!
Eliezer
xequte Posted - Apr 22 2009 : 03:38:48
Hi Elizier

Image format will generally time well assuming you are not afflicted by the items mentioned above. However, because it is generating the slideshow "on-the-fly" the performance cannot be guaranteed (Timing of the image slideshow is maintained by shortening the display time of frames if it failing to keep up with the overall time).

With DVD format on the other hand, DVD PixPlay converts your slideshow into a movie at the time of burning, so the timing of playback can be guaranteed to be identical on all systems (Clicking the "Test" button in the Burn Slideshow wizard will show you the timing as it will be on the disk).

So, in other words, if timing is critical use DVD format.



Nigel
Xequte Software
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elirub1 Posted - Apr 21 2009 : 14:10:34
quote:
Originally posted by xequte

Hi Eliezer

Well it really depends what your main goal is. If timing is most important then DVD is a good format because you can guarantee that the disk will play the same on all players/computers. However DVD quality is not as good as Image quality, so if your slideshow disk is likely to be played on a lot of computers then you might be prepared to risk that the timing may not be 100% identical in order to gain improved quality.

Personally i prefer the combined DVD+Image quality and tell people they can play the disk on their computer or player. It gives the best of both worlds (though timing is not paramount in the disk i create). The only downside with DVD+Image is that it is slightly less compatible with some players than the pure DVD format.



Nigel
Xequte Software
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Hi Nigel
O.K I got the point, but since I use the Time/Music/Image Sync as a special effect, timing is importand to me(I also compose my own music and can "Fine Tune" the duration). So what I am asking:is the
time "inacuracy" constant for a certain slideshow(DVD+Image) or is it randomale? because a "fixed" divertion can be coped with.
second, can this "inacuracy" be "Monitored" on the Prview and/or test(using the appropriate option for accurate timing)and ones burnt will it stay constant(of course there might be negligible divertions due to equipment response time)?
Third, Given that I understand that in any case the "pure" DVD format is,strait forward, the more "timing accurate" Format
Best Regards
Eliezer
xequte Posted - Apr 21 2009 : 06:02:48
Hi Eliezer

Well it really depends what your main goal is. If timing is most important then DVD is a good format because you can guarantee that the disk will play the same on all players/computers. However DVD quality is not as good as Image quality, so if your slideshow disk is likely to be played on a lot of computers then you might be prepared to risk that the timing may not be 100% identical in order to gain improved quality.

Personally i prefer the combined DVD+Image quality and tell people they can play the disk on their computer or player. It gives the best of both worlds (though timing is not paramount in the disk i create). The only downside with DVD+Image is that it is slightly less compatible with some players than the pure DVD format.



Nigel
Xequte Software
nigel@xequte.com
elirub1 Posted - Apr 21 2009 : 03:15:26
quote:
Originally posted by xequte

Hi Morry

quote:
you haven't told me how to get my DVD, Image and DVD+Image test burn replays back onto the PixPlay viewer rather than the Windows player which I don't like?


The Image Slideshow test will always use the PXP VIewer. To make the test for a DVD disk use PixPlay's viewer go into View>Options, Other, Advanced and change the setting to use Windows Media Player to show the Test.

quote:
Regarding ticking the other option on the last stage before burning Image or DVD+lmage I assume you mean the other optimize settings on step 3 which I had at play slide for the specifed time set(no mention of minimum timing here)


If you want the slideshow display to match background music, then use the other option "Start each frame at the designed time".

If you want images to be displayed as long as you specified regardless of background music/overall timing then choose the "display each frame for the specified interval"

quote:
"Generally not less than 5 seconds per frame" you say. Where in any of PixPlays help or FAQs notices does it once give that recommendation(not sure thats spelt right) in regard to setting slide display times to insure accurate slideshow burn and previews.


I should mention that this is only relevant for the Image format slideshow. With DVD and other formats it doesn't matter because DVD PixPlay does all the work at burning time.

If your slideshows are being played on reasonably able computers and you have enabled the (Image Format Slideshow) option to reduce the size of large images then 3-4 seconds should not be a problem.

Slowed playback occurs when:
- You use Image Format slideshow (or DVD+Images and play it on a PC)
and
- You use huge digital camera images and don't let DVD PixPlay reduce their size
and/or
- You are playing back on a slow computer
and/or
You have very short display times

In that situation you will find it almost impossible to time background music and frame display



Nigel
Xequte Software
nigel@xequte.com



Hi Nigel
Could one conclude from the above Said that in case of "TIMEING" (Music/Image Sync) being a main issue one should,always, Choose tne
"DVD" setting for optimum performance?
Best Regards
Eliezer
xequte Posted - Apr 21 2009 : 01:43:34
Hi Morry

I think the problem with the multimedia drivers on your system is causing PixPlay to lock up when the slideshow is displayed with the Test option. Installing a codec pack (such as K-Lite) should resolve the problem, but i think it would be easiest just to use the Windows Media Player option.

Nigel
Xequte Software
nigel@xequte.com
Morry Posted - Apr 19 2009 : 19:59:12
Many thanks Nigel now we know! Regarding your advice to simply untick Use Windows player as the answer to getting my DVD+IMAGE etc test burns to replay on the PixPlay viewer as they should. I'm afraid that doesen't work and brings me right back to my original post of the 15th where I reported the test burns freezing up. The error now shown on PixPlay viewer on blank screen is (error encountered displaying your video file) DVD Pixplay 92% Of course if I commit the burn to hard drive I can double click the PixPlay viewer icon in the project folder and it plays the project no bother, which intrigues me!
xequte Posted - Apr 19 2009 : 18:13:54
Hi Morry

quote:
you haven't told me how to get my DVD, Image and DVD+Image test burn replays back onto the PixPlay viewer rather than the Windows player which I don't like?


The Image Slideshow test will always use the PXP VIewer. To make the test for a DVD disk use PixPlay's viewer go into View>Options, Other, Advanced and change the setting to use Windows Media Player to show the Test.

quote:
Regarding ticking the other option on the last stage before burning Image or DVD+lmage I assume you mean the other optimize settings on step 3 which I had at play slide for the specifed time set(no mention of minimum timing here)


If you want the slideshow display to match background music, then use the other option "Start each frame at the designed time".

If you want images to be displayed as long as you specified regardless of background music/overall timing then choose the "display each frame for the specified interval"

quote:
"Generally not less than 5 seconds per frame" you say. Where in any of PixPlays help or FAQs notices does it once give that recommendation(not sure thats spelt right) in regard to setting slide display times to insure accurate slideshow burn and previews.


I should mention that this is only relevant for the Image format slideshow. With DVD and other formats it doesn't matter because DVD PixPlay does all the work at burning time.

If your slideshows are being played on reasonably able computers and you have enabled the (Image Format Slideshow) option to reduce the size of large images then 3-4 seconds should not be a problem.

Slowed playback occurs when:
- You use Image Format slideshow (or DVD+Images and play it on a PC)
and
- You use huge digital camera images and don't let DVD PixPlay reduce their size
and/or
- You are playing back on a slow computer
and/or
You have very short display times

In that situation you will find it almost impossible to time background music and frame display



Nigel
Xequte Software
nigel@xequte.com
Morry Posted - Apr 19 2009 : 08:08:47
Hi Nigel many thanks,but you haven't told me how to get my DVD, Image and DVD+Image test burn replays back onto the PixPlay viewer rather than the Windows player which I don't like?
Regarding ticking the other option on the last stage before burning Image or DVD+lmage I assume you mean the other optimize settings on step 3 which I had at play slide for the specifed time set(no mention of minimum timing here) and also I had (keep slideshow preview accurate on another setting)
"Generally not less than 5 seconds per frame" you say. Where in any of PixPlays help or FAQs notices does it once give that recommendation(not sure thats spelt right) in regard to setting slide display times to insure accurate slideshow burn and previews. The fact that I would rarely time a slide to be viewed for more than 4 seconds at the most to prevent my audience going to sleep would now appear to be a leading cause in itself for my woes with the programme?
xequte Posted - Apr 19 2009 : 04:14:28
Hi Morry

If you mean the preview cannot be relied upon because the timing of the frames is not correct:
- Ensure under View>Options you have enabled the accurate preview timing option
- If burning DVD+Image or Image format ensure you have selected the option (click "Other" on the last step) to maintain the slideshow timing
- Ensure your image display times are long enough that your system has sufficient time to load the image (generally not less that five seconds per frame)

I can't see any reason why the text issues you mention should in any way affect preview timing.



Nigel
Xequte Software
nigel@xequte.com
Morry Posted - Apr 18 2009 : 18:50:25
Many thanks Nigel. Ok I removed a Nero suite from my PC and presto got instant sucessful DVD+IMAGE test burn and replay on Windows player (no auto repeat and not as good definition as PixPlay player though) I want the Pixplayer player as my default player for DVD+IMAGE etc not Windows. I can test burn and replay IMAGE through the PixPlay player why not DVD+IMAGE
The normal preview method on PixPlay cannot be relied on as a true indicator before burning to disc for me, and I would like to know if this has anything to do with the modifying of text in titles and the use of capitals and italics.Also does the replacement of slides in ones previously burned projects due to removing them on PC cause any problems?I got a text error message when things started freezing up
xequte Posted - Apr 17 2009 : 06:47:45
OK, so it sounds as though the source of the lock up problems was due to Nero messing with your multimedia driver set up. If you are still unable to test your slideshows correctly, you might want to install a codec pack to seize playback back from Nero.

The burning problems you were encountering several years ago was not related to the Windows ME issue, which only affected versions v3.30 to v3.34.

Your system is plenty fast enough to create and burn disks with DVD PixPlay.





Nigel
Xequte Software
nigel@xequte.com
Morry Posted - Apr 16 2009 : 09:58:35
Hi Nigel many thanks, as you say the test showing for the image burn log file was fine, that whats I found out, it was the rest of the formats that would not test burn and play back! I ticked the Windows player option as you advised and yes, it has made a big difference, the test burns in DVD + Image,and DVD etc now complete OK (They do not stop at 92%)but they also do not show on the Windows player. Instead a Nero audio file player opens up! Because I do not use the normal top preview tab on PixPlay as this preview timing comes nowhere near the actual test burn timing (up to 20+ secs out for me) I am now burning to hard drive and double clicking the PixPlay file viewer icon to view and check on PixPlay before I commit the burn onto disc! I mean their has got to be something badly out of line their! When I first got PixPlay a few years ago I was running a P3 and Windows ME and could never get a good explanation from you why I could not burn a DVD directly onto disc with the plxPlay software, I see lately in the forums that you now acknowledge that PlxPlay has burning problems with ME. I now have a AMD dual core 3800/AM2 and 1gig ram & XP and surely thats fast enough to handle the programme.You mentioned that big files and my computer speed could be a factor I understood that PixPlay reduces big jpeg files anyway to suit,is this not correct?
xequte Posted - Apr 16 2009 : 03:49:41
Hi Morry

According to the log, the preview was generated OK. Perhaps the failure is in the display of the preview (which could occur if there are driver problems on your computer).

Have you tried going into View>Options, Other, Advanced and changing the setting to use Windows Media Player to show the Test?

If you are choosing display times of 1 second and your images are large (and/or your system is not very fast) then it is unlikely that your computer will be able to load and display the images fast enough to keep up.



Nigel
Xequte Software
nigel@xequte.com