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Casper

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Posted - Jan 01 2007 :  02:55:31  Show Profile  Reply
The new version of MailListKing is adding <tbody> tags to html messages - previous versions didn't do this.

In addition, this tag triggers some spam filters(HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY):

X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on
uk2mxserver2-6.uk2.net
X-Spam-Level: *
X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=99.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,
HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY,HTML_TINY_FONT autolearn=


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The Success View – gushing success into your life!
"http://www.thesuccessview.com/?ref=xeq"
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xequte

7042 Posts

Posted - Jan 01 2007 :  02:55:31  Show Profile  Reply
Hi

Please send the HTML source file to support@xequte.com



Nigel
Xequte Software
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Casper

6 Posts

Posted - Jan 01 2007 :  02:55:31  Show Profile  Reply
Hi,

I created the message in FrontPage and saved it as a .html file. I then used the open button in MLK to read in the message. I'm careful not to edit the message at all and previously (to this version) the html was not changed.

There are no tbody tags in the html file (checked with notepad). The version is the one you sent the download link most recently - 5.35P I think.

Thanks again,



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xequte

7042 Posts

Posted - Jan 01 2007 :  02:55:31  Show Profile  Reply
Hi

Which version are you referring to 5.33 or 5.35P?

I assume you created the message entirely in MailList King?



Nigel
Xequte Software
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thehandyman33

6 Posts

Posted - Feb 23 2011 :  23:51:59  Show Profile  Reply
I'm having the same problem: <TBODY> tags mysteriously being added in. What was the resolution to this?

The HTML code I'm using as a test is very simple... original code:


<html>
<head>
<title>gachisites</title>
</head>
<body style="padding:0; margin:0">

<table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="background:#c4e1ff" >
<tr>
<td>THIS IS A TEST TO SEE IF TBODY TAGS GET ADDED!</td>
</tr>
</table>

</body></html>


I got to "New Email", Edit >> Stationary and Themes, and I load up the HTML file above. Then when I view source, this is what I see:

<HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><HEAD><TITLE>gachisites</TITLE>
<META content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv=Content-Type>
<META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.7600.16700"></HEAD>
<BODY 
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">
<TABLE style="BACKGROUND: #c4e1ff" border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 
width="100%">
  <TBODY>
  <TR>
    <TD>THIS IS A TEST TO SEE IF TBODY TAGS GET 
ADDED!</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BODY></HTML>


BORKED! Maillist King is screwing with my source code and adding <TBODY>. So, how do I stop this from happening?

Edit: It even happens if I hand-code the HTML into MLK... it just can't stand to have the <TBODY> omitted.
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xequte

7042 Posts

Posted - Feb 24 2011 :  02:04:46  Show Profile  Reply
Hi

Can you please tell me what version you are using?

Nigel
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nigel@xequte.com
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thehandyman33

6 Posts

Posted - Feb 24 2011 :  08:10:02  Show Profile  Reply
Oops, sorry I forgot:

Maillist King Personal Edition v10.12r

on Win7 64bit if that makes a difference.
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xequte

7042 Posts

Posted - Feb 24 2011 :  13:48:53  Show Profile  Reply
OK, please select Help > Check for updates and download v10.21.

Then if it still does it click Ctrl+Shift+D in the "New Email" window. A box will pop up describing the editor status. Please tell me what it says.



Nigel
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thehandyman33

6 Posts

Posted - Feb 24 2011 :  19:57:18  Show Profile  Reply
Help > Check for Updates shows:

You are using: v10.12
Latest release is: v10.21

No mention of "v6.21" you said in your message, but I'm guessing you meant 10.21, so performing the update...

Still does it (exactly the same behavior described above, same simple test HTML file).

Ctrl+Shift+d shows "Editor Status" as follows (and it's extremely annoying that I can't copy/paste this text)

Version: v10.21R
Windows: Windows 7
HTML Mode: True
HTML Source Preservation: True
HTML Charset: utf-8
Default Charset: windows-1252
Send Charset: utf-8
Sending Profile: SMTP (my email)

"HTML Source Preservation" sure sounds promising, but it's clearly not doing what I think that means. In any case, still very broken. What should I do next?

EDIT: I tried entering the HTML code by hand into the editor (not based on a file), it does the same thing: adds unwanted <TBODY> tags.
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xequte

7042 Posts

Posted - Feb 26 2011 :  23:30:43  Show Profile  Reply
Thanks for the detail.

I'll investigate and come back to you.



Nigel
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thehandyman33

6 Posts

Posted - Feb 28 2011 :  09:03:01  Show Profile  Reply
Any luck with this?

As an alternative, how do I get <TBODY> tags not to break the table display in Gmail and Hotmail? (Yahoo seems to handle them fine).

I have a mailer that needs to go out by the end of the month, so one way or the other I'd really like to find a solution.
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xequte

7042 Posts

Posted - Feb 28 2011 :  13:09:00  Show Profile  Reply
Hi

Yes, I just investigated it.

MLK uses the MS HTML Editing engine (a part of Internet Explorer) which is adding the TBODY tag.

We have a number of options for removing it, but first please tell me what problems you are having with it in Gmail. The test messages i sent to Gmail containing TBODY tags displayed just fine.



Nigel
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thehandyman33

6 Posts

Posted - Feb 28 2011 :  13:16:27  Show Profile  Reply
I have a table with images that are the exact size of the cells (as a way of embedding text surrounded by images without the layout breaking).

The table displays correctly in Yahoo, but breaks in Gmail and Hotmail (the "broken" part is extra white space that adds a line break).

The code is extremely simple (this is done very much on purpose to try to get the correct display in as many email readers as possible), something like:

<table>
<tr>
<td>[left header image]</td>
<td>[middle header image]</td>
<td>[right header image]</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>[left side image]</td>
<td>[BODY TEXT]</td>
<td>[left side image]</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>[left footer image]</td>
<td>[middle footer image]</td>
<td>[right footer image]</td>
</tr>
</table>

I can email you actual code but I don't want to waste your time debugging what might be a simple HTML issue on my side.

I would simply like that the app NOT rewrite HTML in ANY way, as it makes the job of debugging much, much harder.

I don't even care about having a WYSIWYG editor, I have other much better tools for that. Is there a way I can disable that feature completely, so that what I put in is EXACTLY what gets sent out?
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xequte

7042 Posts

Posted - Feb 28 2011 :  15:31:20  Show Profile  Reply
Hi

Email me and i'll give you an update that returns the loaded HTML if you do not make any changes in the editor.

Nigel
Xequte Software
www.xequte.com
nigel@xequte.com
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thehandyman33

6 Posts

Posted - Feb 28 2011 :  23:17:27  Show Profile  Reply
Email sent!
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xequte

7042 Posts

Posted - Mar 01 2011 :  02:46:02  Show Profile  Reply
Received and reply sent. This will also be part of the official v10.21 release.

Nigel
Xequte Software
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